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SPOILER: More Terminator: Dark Fate LEAKS- John Connor’s Fate Undecided?


By: TheTerminatorFans.com On June 4th, 2019

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*If you do not want to read leaks or spoilers for the new Terminator movie then do not proceed… –

The fate of John Connor has seemingly been revealed in new leaks and spoilers that originated from Reddit with numerous leakers stating that they had seen the movie at test screenings.
With accounts of these test screenings differing in detail; one would assume that some falsehoods might possibly be being told but what if audiences are being tested by official sources with different versions of the movie?

Test screenings can include scenes with no CGI, unfinished motion picture scores and different story elements like the death of a character, or the survival of a character, a happy ending or a sad one but what if John Connor’s fate is exactly what the recent leaks are about…

What if we the fans, and audiences, are being tested so the studios can make the best decision for the movie… ?

We discuss all of this in our breakdown video and go into more detail about the survival of John Connor,- which you can watch below.

Someone who claims to have attended a test screening for Terminator: Dark Fate contacted us at TheTerminatorFans.com – this viewer claims, and refutes, certain information stated in the other leaks (in this version of Terminator: Dark Fate).

THIS NEW LEAKORIGINAL LEAKS (3 LEAKS+ 4CHAN)
John Connor Lives – leads a new life
without his mother. Observes the news at the end of the movie (in present – adult or child – past – age of John not provided). John lived a normal life.
John Connor Killed brutally by ‘Carl’ the T-800, with a shotgun at a beach bar in 1997/1998
LEGION is an Anti Terrorist Program that becomes self-aware with the memory of SkyNet (NEXUS memory like Genisys?)LEGION IS THE NEW SKYNET developed by humans
T-800 sacrifices itself to destroy REV 9T-800 Terminated by REV 9 (first leaks)/T-800 uses Grace’s powercell to explode REV 9 (4CHAN)
Dani Ramos is the new leader of the Resistance, not her child.SkyNet doesn’t want Dani; it wants her womb (since edited out/removed from Reddit)
Judgment Day happens in 2020
Grace is from the year 2045Grace is from the year 2042
Movie driven by female warriorsVery feminist movie “equal opportunity”
Artifacts left-over from REV 9 destruction go on to create REV 1
Sarah and John will train Dani Ramos in the next movie
John sent Carl to 1997 to protect him but he failed and existed in society until now
Carl the T-800 texts Sarah Connor Co-Ordinates to help her hunt Terminators
Grace’s co-ordinates on her stomach match co-ordinates on Arnold’s T-800
Sarah survives
Carl (T-800) blows himself up to destroy REV 9Sarah Connor removes Grace’s Power Cell to sacrifice for REV 9 destruction, gets knocked away from Grace and Carl (T-800) uses it for a sacrifice. (4Chan)

*NOTE: The original information from the Reddit thread has been altered/added to/edited/deleted/elaborated upon, and has changed continually over the course of time since the first leaks began appearing on the website. Not only have the leakers memories improved with time but they appear to have gained an almost photographic recall of the footage from the initial screening – all of which brings into question the validity of the information.

So, according to the new leak John Connor does not die… We also find out more about this screen attendee’s account of what he apparently saw of the evolution of Legion (the alt timeline anti-terrorist program born from early SkyNet research) and REV 9 (how from the demise of the REV 9, the REV 1 will be created), how the T-800 gets named Carl and how this will be Arnold’s last outing as a Terminator in the franchise. We also get echoes/similarities with other leaks of the death/sacrifice of Grace and the T-800, perhaps strengthening the 4Chan leak that might have been thought to be fake by the sub reddit owner.

It totally makes sense that alternate cuts would be shown and they would likely get leaked. The studios may now be watching the opinions on the internet to possibly shape the movie if people really didn’t like something.

The original email message received by us (with this leak account of John surviving and living a non-savior to humankind life):

False everything .ive seen the screening and mostly true but John doesnt die…he is abandoned and he started a new life w/o his mother until at the end of the movie he watches the news and he turns it off and movie ends but he is no longer the resistance leader but legion is created by the leftover cyberdyne and become a anti-terrorist program until it becomes self aware and wakes up with the memory of skynet but dani Ramos is the resistance leader because of John Sarah grace and the t800 he uses the van to nickname him Carl.And in the new future which takes place in 2045,grace was sent by dani to protect her,and John connor which he is the reason why she becomes the resistance leader and yes rev9 does destroy grace but the last t800 blows himself up and the rev 9 but the leftover of the rev9 is found and became rev1 and t800 was sent by John to ensure him in 1997 but changed the future and lived in default programming meaning he becomes a civilian but if this movie succeeds then it will show Sarah John training dani ramos… this is Arnold last appearance as the t800.but fans were kinda mad that dani is the resistance leader and not John and the t800 screen time wasn’t as much in the other films and its driven by female warriors

Whether or not the version of John Connor, which was stated to have been seen (by the new leaker) at the end of Terminator: Dark Fate, is young John or a more mature adult John is up for debate – this information was not given to us.

Click here to read original John Connor death leaks

Reddit leaker ‘ViewerAnon’ contacted us via email to debunk the above Terminator: Dark Fate John Connor leak. Video below:


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Vincent Michel
Vincent Michel

Je prie pour qu’il ne fasse pas l’erreur de génisys de rendre john connor méchant ou détruire ce personnage ! je veux pas croire que ce soit la fin de ce sauveur de l’humanité au côté de la meilleure du futur ! pour ce qui est du T800 ce serai plus loogique vu son âge il ne pourra plus rejouer le terminator même si avec un CGI pour le rendre plus jeune d’accord ! mais s’il vous plait garder nos 3 héros de cette franchise !!! LES CONNORS ET SCWARZY !!!! <3 au nom du tout puissant seigneur ! que… Read more »

tx1
tx1

Why change the original concept story of John Connor (leader of the resistance) . Crazy !!! How can Tim Miller be a major fan of terminator and direct this film with this new timeline? Jim any response to all your loyal fans? Basically killing off John in away and making another (female) leader? really?

Juan Canino
Juan Canino

John acepta entrenar a Danny, luego q su madre queda mal herida al intentar defenderla del Rev9, ella le pide a John que la entrene como Kyle lo hizo con elma y que la proteja. Sarah muere pero su muerte hace que John regrese a la pelea clontra Skynet y acepta su destino.

mcbennet
mcbennet

After stewing over this leak news for 2 days I started to think it could have been a ploy to probe the masses so they could reshape the movie for the best results possible. This isn’t an uncommon practice so I’d believe it. I want to believe it, really..the current mold for the movie is just horrible. Maybe they did it deliberately to create more buzz and to wow the audience with surprises when the release date is upon us. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

BrandKnew
BrandKnew

I would be dubious of this new source. The other leaks had multiple sources and they all verified pretty much the same information. Where they differentiated was the endings. This is common for films, as multiple endings are usually assembled for films that have had lots of different writers come through. But a different cut where John Connor is not killed at the beginning? That’s something of an alternate movie than the one we’ve just uncovered. I don’t believe they are going to go through all the trouble of a CGI scene of live actors only to not utilize it.… Read more »

Gary Smith
Gary Smith

These new spoiler About John Being alive might be true, but come on guys, that is one very poorly written email.

Oliver
Oliver

Why would anyone want to see yet another re-casting of John Connor?? I see this as being a very reasonable way of writing him out of the main story. They changed the future in T2 so I see that as a perfect opportunity for the leader of the residence to have changed too. The best John Connor we ever got by far was Eddie as the child version of the character….and lets face it, we are not likely to have Eddie come back aside from perhaps some sort of performance capture on his Cgi child double. Lets move on! a… Read more »

tx1
tx1

The best John Connor was the adult version in T2 (future scenes) – Eddie was great as the young Connor – I was looking forward to seeing a mature/adult version of him. Dont you want to see how he became the leader? Show how the humans fought hard against the machines (have it go full circle) T3 to T5 is ignored and I’m good with that….If you watch T1 and T2 back to back, you would think the story continues and fans would want the same…..Anything else (time change, leader change, etc, etc) kinda feels like milking the cow to… Read more »

Oliver
Oliver

If it weren’t for T3 , salvation and genisys then I would probably have wanted to see John Connor continue. Who knows really….I remember wanting a Terminator 3 since back in the day and we have had years now of Sub-par sequels. Dark fate really needs a change of characters now at this stage

Lenny
Lenny

The concept that everything must continue from T2 isn’t fresh and admit it John’s era has ended. I don’t want to see any other salvation and no I don’t wanna know what John fight to terminator coz i have seen it already in T1-T2. If they made anything different than whatever i see in T1 and T2 i’ll be disappointed. So let’s start new era with some fresh idea and let the franchise move on.

fur ball
fur ball

One from script, the other from the actual screening?

quill
quill

Mother and Son as well as John continuing to grow up and become the leader / savior of mankind. Growing up with and always pondering these movies is a very special part of my life. I was about John’s age when I saw T2, and though he may not have been the perfect role model, I certainly as a kid looked up to him and related to him quite a bit! When I was a boy, I used to ride my bike through the neighborhood, my house was at the bottom of a street / hill. I used to be… Read more »

T305
T305

I have to admit, I like the idea of having John show up at the end, recognize his mom in the news (or something like that), turns of the tv, turns his head and bam… Eddie Furlong. Movie ends. T2 theme begins. As a fan, I like that. It’s subtle, yet powerful because it brings back all 3 characters back (John, Sarah, T-800). I don’t think they should kill John off but if they couldn’t come up with a good story that includes him, then they’ll just have to do it. Otherwise we have the exact movie we have seen… Read more »

Alien Lore

I like this leak better. I can now breath easier when re watching T2. Of course this doesn’t mean that it will be a good sequel.

T-itanium
T-itanium

Hope they can read here and there’s still time to fix stuff in post-production. Here’s my few cent, based on what’s known for now: Part I: what may be do-able for now 1. Speed up “slow-mo high jump” as to fit real physical velocity, speed up “Grace ‘hammer up’ Rev9” shot for same reason. -No! NOT “SPEED UP HALF ACROSS SLOW-MO SHOT” KIND OF MTV SH*T!!!! 2. Establish proper connection between Skynet and LEGION so it can explain how they share similar “mental pattern”, or else “another naked-only time device” would be plain silly when developed by a different A.I.… Read more »

T-itanium
T-itanium

Part II: For future intallment 5. Careful with timeline changes: -Judgment Day delayed to further the story is fine for me, operation to change future isn’t always guarenteed a success, but it can only be used for a really few time, if not just this once. As previously mentioned, timeline altered for MULTIPLE times yet stay way too silmilar to previous one would be a really weak story. Examples: –no Terminator from future can either mean successful change to history, or Human resistence so totally defeated that Skynet/Legion/whatever has no need to send Terminator back, or a new rogue A.I.… Read more »