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Reddit Thread Reveals TERMINATOR: DARK FATE Plot Leak?


By: TheTerminatorFans.com On June 1st, 2019

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*WARNING: This Article MAY Contain SPOILERS.

According to Reddit thread r/Terminator, there has been a huge T:DF plot leak which uncovers the story of the new movie, and, if true, might just shake the very foundations of the Terminator franchise and its fanbase to the core.

The ‘leaker’ apparently has a reputation for leaking important storylines for big blockbuster movie franchises, something he did with The Last Jedi and (according to an archived Star Wars thread) apparently what the leaker had to say (pre-release of the movie) was later confirmed to be true.

Some of the information which is said to be “leaked” is eerily similar to some of our very own theories regarding Terminator: Dark Fate, ie,- John Connor has been killed after the events of T2 by a T-800, who then goes on to work alongside Sarah Connor to fight Skynet. Skynet sends back multiple T-800s at the same time to kill John Connor, that Judgment Day is simply delayed and due to that delay – the timeline and its specifics are changed.

Could this also mean that our theory about time-travelling Sarah Connor is true?

Is it possible that the “leaker” has hit the jackpot once again with information regarding a tent-pole franchise and its prospective plot? Or, could “Deep-throat” have an eye on the fan community and simply be doing the maths of a possible outcome based on fact, theory and conjecture?

One thing is certain, if this information is true… this might just be a bad omen for all those Terminator Fans wondering at the absence of the future leader of mankind, John Connor, and the possible excessive use of time-travel, multiple timelines and a Terminator living a normal life running a drapery company… ?

Oh, yeah, let’s not forget Terminator Genisys’ use of an all-seeing-all-knowing T-800 with a vast knowledge of “nexus points”… has that been re-purposed for Terminator: Dark Fate along with a few other aspects from the now non-canon instalments? Hmmm…

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Thanks to Terminator Fan Patry Atry for the heads up.


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Steven Millan

So far,this upcoming new TERMINATOR sequel looks and sounds like J.J. Abrams’ TERMINATOR:GENESYS 2.0 .

tx1
tx1

Killing John Connor off is such a mistake in my eyes. I would be so disappointed if that is true. I just don’t get why they cant write a film with John Connor in the lead role to fulfill what he ultimately should be. The leader of the resistance!! No need to change the future, its been written, just shows us how he gets there. Especially here in the movie! Come on man! I thought you said you were going to ignore all films after t2? Maker a real movie, with a great script. Not another popcorn film for $$$$

Dan Hall
Dan Hall

Honestly, killing John and phasing out Schwarzenegger is the only way to take this franchise forward.
– Arnold is 71. They’re clutching at the threads of credibility to keep him in this franchise. This movie needs to be complete and irreversible closure for his character.
– John Connor becomes the leader of the human resistance. We fight the machines and win. This is all old hat. But what if John no longer exists anymore and Skynet destroys mankind in the future, and nobody knows who the target is or who they will become? The franchise becomes, tense, mysterious and uncertain again.

KrazzyDJ

This was kind of the path followed by Rise of the Machines and Salvation. At this point, I think a sequel to Salvation would have been much more interesting.

Mike
Mike

Only for it to be rehashed with a new, more progressive/modern cast, as we’ll inevitably see come November. Not me, though. I’m skipping out on the trash fire, same with Star Wars. There’s no point in bringing back a classic old franchise if you’re going to disgrace or kill off the old cast to make way for the new. It’s in bad taste. All talk of moving on and passing the torch is just that: talk. Empty, cliched, cynical justification to do whatever they want. I understand wanting to see something interesting done with the franchise. Some new twist or… Read more »

Vincent Michel
Vincent Michel

Ce serait la plus grosse erreur de la franchise tuer le sauveur de cette guerre à venir ! j’aurai tellement aimer revoir le vrai john connor grandir dans une guerre future ou il aurait compris le sens de son engagement au coté de sa mère ! j’espère vraiment qu’il garderons les 4 personnages important du films à savoir Joh connor le T800 sarah connor et kyle reese en vie ! ce sont les sauveurs et ils ont menés la bataille ensembles pour finir cette guerre et détruire Skynet ! sauf s’il décide de détruire le modèle du premier T800 de… Read more »

tx1
tx1

Once the future is written, it cant be changed no matter what you try to do…I get that you want to see another version of what if John was killed…..You forget we loved the story of T1 and T2 about Sarah and John….Changing the story becomes irrelevant. At least Salvation had the idea of John Connor taking charge and becoming the leader but the execution of the film was just awful (promising but awful script/director) Love Arnold but his time is over. i like the idea of having a younger T-800 (CGI) with his voice. But his old age and… Read more »

Dan Hall
Dan Hall

“Once the future is written, it cant be changed no matter what you try to do…”

That is literally the opposite of what T1 and T2 are about.

tx1
tx1

Really, I’ll have to watch it again without wine in my hand…..the future is inevitable (unavoidable)

Dan Hall
Dan Hall

T1 & T2 – ‘There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.’ (John Connor/Kyle Reese)
T3 – ‘Judgment Day is inevitable.’
Another reason why I strongly dislike T3, because it threw the core message of the franchise out with the trash.

Michael Rodriguez
Michael Rodriguez

I think he’s right. As much as I love T2, I think in hindsight I’d rather have seen films that told more about the story of the time loop, all the way up to the end of the Future War in 2029. At least then there would’ve been more room to establish or argue for the possibility of breaking the time loop, with the events of T2 serving as the final Terminator film that either breaks the loop or affirms it can’t be broken.

quill
quill

John has to grow up and send Kyle back to protect his mom and become his dad so that he’s born. That’s always been the one constant comfort and thing that has to happen for this story and world to work. T2 is my favorite movie and I also love T1, so please don’t ever mess those up or the lore that is established! They can make a poignant, meaningful, exciting film with important themes and great practical effects and action and stunts just like back in the day, without any need to rewrite or muddy the rules. The only… Read more »

James
James

“John has to grow up and send Kyle back to protect his mom and become his dad so that he’s born. That’s always been the one constant comfort and thing that has to happen for this story and world to work.” so we think…BUT that’s the biggest plot-hole that Jim Cameron couldn’t avoid. We all know that John Connor (son of Sarah) sent Kyle back to protect her, it is 100% possiblr, but THE John who sent Kyle IS NOT Kyle’s son. why? because in the very first timeline, very very first, before Kyle even was there Sara did give… Read more »

Uncle Bobby
Uncle Bobby

NOT a plot hole! It’s a basic time paradox….

Hasinur Tonmoy
Hasinur Tonmoy

I like the leaked plot very very much

T-itanium
T-itanium

“Alternating” timeline still need to build connection to old one, specifically LEGION need to somehow connect to Skynet, or an entire different rogue AI develop same type of Time Travel (Grace still naked) is simply unconvincing. Unfortunately, old T3 does better job on this (Skynet in this version is more or less carried over from T2). Multi unknown terminators from original future: good. better than terminator per timeline. Hope they actually carried idea from near-canon comic “Cybernetic Dawn,” maybe LEGION is developed from leftover of other defunct terminators? Death of John Connor: mixed Skynet is gone, along with its nemesis.… Read more »

Dan Hall
Dan Hall

Okay just to clarify, for all those saying ‘Kyle has to travel back for John to exist’ and that Terminator supports the same singular timeline time-travel logic of Back to the Future. No it doesn’t. Terminator uses a branching timeline logic, which means if something materially exists, even though it’s from a future that no longer occurs, it doesn’t just vanish into thin air ala BTTF. Case in point, at the end of T2, they melt the arm and the chip, and the T800 is still there. Infact, he gets lowered into the steel because ‘there is one more chip,’… Read more »

Nick
Nick

I hope this is a fake. It looks like another iteration of Genisys mistakes.

mcbennet
mcbennet

If this is true, it sounds like a horrible, uninspired hodge-podge mashup of ideas taken from Rise of The Machines, and Genisys. Although I enjoy the idea of two opposing apocalyptic futures warring with one another, eliminating John Connor’s character is a huge disappointment. Kind of expected, but a really cheap cop out, if you ask me. So much of the plot revealed thus far comes across as generic, right down to T-800 terminating the REV-9 with a power cell. Isn’t that how they canned the villain in T3? Dark Fate will be the series of death spasms that mark… Read more »

Mark
Mark

T1 and T2 are the ONLY Terminator Movies! Anything else after it doesnt exist to me.

Alex
Alex

Bonne idée le fait que 1t800 et 1t1000 on remonté le temps pour tuer John en 95 et le t800 le trouve plus tard. Très très nul qui tue John, il aurait du lui échapper et durant toute ces années ils continuent à fuir. Et alors un nouveau skynet se met en place car il ne tue pas John. Le rev9 arrive avec de nouvelles cibles car le future de John à changer. La pire idée est de faire changer le t800 de camp comme si il avait des remords alors il aident Sarah.. c’est nul. C’est une machine à… Read more »

Juan Canino
Juan Canino

I remember James Cameron once said that he was angry because in Alien 3 they killed 2 characters that were important in the movie of Alien 2, and he also said that they could have done much more with them instead of killing them. Why would I do the same with John Connor?

Mike
Mike

I don’t think he’s the same guy he used to be in the 80s and 90s.

Justin
Justin

Looks like i will be skipping this movie. At least I got some great books and some really cool dark horse comics back in the 90’s to be the sequels I wanted.

Ben Vinicoff
Ben Vinicoff

If these leaks, namely 1st one, I can’t even begin to not. What the F is wrong with you? …. What… are you thinking?! “sigh” . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . ,.-‘”. . . . . . . . . .”~., . . . . . . . .. . . . . .,.-“. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .”-., . . . . .. . . . . . ..,/. . . . . . . . . .… Read more »

T-itanium
T-itanium

And here is re-post: “Alternating” timeline still need to build connection to old one, specifically LEGION need to somehow connect to Skynet, or an entire different rogue AI develop same type of Time Travel (Grace still naked) is simply unconvincing. Unfortunately, old T3 does better job on this (Skynet in this version is more or less carried over from T2). Multi unknown terminators from original future: good. better than terminator per timeline. Hope they actually carried idea from near-canon comic “Cybernetic Dawn,” maybe LEGION is developed from leftover of other defunct terminators? Death of John Connor: mixed Skynet is gone,… Read more »