*If you do not want to read leaks or spoilers for the new Terminator movie then do not proceed… –
The fate of John Connor has seemingly been revealed in new leaks and spoilers that originated from Reddit with numerous leakers stating that they had seen the movie at test screenings.
With accounts of these test screenings differing in detail; one would assume that some falsehoods might possibly be being told but what if audiences are being tested by official sources with different versions of the movie?
Test screenings can include scenes with no CGI, unfinished motion picture scores and different story elements like the death of a character, or the survival of a character, a happy ending or a sad one but what if John Connor’s fate is exactly what the recent leaks are about…
What if we the fans, and audiences, are being tested so the studios can make the best decision for the movie… ?
We discuss all of this in our breakdown video and go into more detail about the survival of John Connor,- which you can watch below.
Someone who claims to have attended a test screening for Terminator: Dark Fate contacted us at TheTerminatorFans.com – this viewer claims, and refutes, certain information stated in the other leaks (in this version of Terminator: Dark Fate).
| THIS NEW LEAK | ORIGINAL LEAKS (3 LEAKS+ 4CHAN) |
| John Connor Lives – leads a new life without his mother. Observes the news at the end of the movie (in present – adult or child – past – age of John not provided). John lived a normal life. | John Connor Killed brutally by ‘Carl’ the T-800, with a shotgun at a beach bar in 1997/1998 |
| LEGION is an Anti Terrorist Program that becomes self-aware with the memory of SkyNet (NEXUS memory like Genisys?) | LEGION IS THE NEW SKYNET developed by humans |
| T-800 sacrifices itself to destroy REV 9 | T-800 Terminated by REV 9 (first leaks)/T-800 uses Grace’s powercell to explode REV 9 (4CHAN) |
| Dani Ramos is the new leader of the Resistance, not her child. | SkyNet doesn’t want Dani; it wants her womb (since edited out/removed from Reddit) |
| Judgment Day happens in 2020 | |
| Grace is from the year 2045 | Grace is from the year 2042 |
| Movie driven by female warriors | Very feminist movie “equal opportunity” |
| Artifacts left-over from REV 9 destruction go on to create REV 1 | |
| Sarah and John will train Dani Ramos in the next movie | |
| John sent Carl to 1997 to protect him but he failed and existed in society until now | |
| Carl the T-800 texts Sarah Connor Co-Ordinates to help her hunt Terminators | |
| Grace’s co-ordinates on her stomach match co-ordinates on Arnold’s T-800 | |
| Sarah survives | |
| Carl (T-800) blows himself up to destroy REV 9 | Sarah Connor removes Grace’s Power Cell to sacrifice for REV 9 destruction, gets knocked away from Grace and Carl (T-800) uses it for a sacrifice. (4Chan) |
*NOTE: The original information from the Reddit thread has been altered/added to/edited/deleted/elaborated upon, and has changed continually over the course of time since the first leaks began appearing on the website. Not only have the leakers memories improved with time but they appear to have gained an almost photographic recall of the footage from the initial screening – all of which brings into question the validity of the information.
So, according to the new leak John Connor does not die… We also find out more about this screen attendee’s account of what he apparently saw of the evolution of Legion (the alt timeline anti-terrorist program born from early SkyNet research) and REV 9 (how from the demise of the REV 9, the REV 1 will be created), how the T-800 gets named Carl and how this will be Arnold’s last outing as a Terminator in the franchise. We also get echoes/similarities with other leaks of the death/sacrifice of Grace and the T-800, perhaps strengthening the 4Chan leak that might have been thought to be fake by the sub reddit owner.
It totally makes sense that alternate cuts would be shown and they would likely get leaked. The studios may now be watching the opinions on the internet to possibly shape the movie if people really didn’t like something.
The original email message received by us (with this leak account of John surviving and living a non-savior to humankind life):
False everything .ive seen the screening and mostly true but John doesnt die…he is abandoned and he started a new life w/o his mother until at the end of the movie he watches the news and he turns it off and movie ends but he is no longer the resistance leader but legion is created by the leftover cyberdyne and become a anti-terrorist program until it becomes self aware and wakes up with the memory of skynet but dani Ramos is the resistance leader because of John Sarah grace and the t800 he uses the van to nickname him Carl.And in the new future which takes place in 2045,grace was sent by dani to protect her,and John connor which he is the reason why she becomes the resistance leader and yes rev9 does destroy grace but the last t800 blows himself up and the rev 9 but the leftover of the rev9 is found and became rev1 and t800 was sent by John to ensure him in 1997 but changed the future and lived in default programming meaning he becomes a civilian but if this movie succeeds then it will show Sarah John training dani ramos… this is Arnold last appearance as the t800.but fans were kinda mad that dani is the resistance leader and not John and the t800 screen time wasn’t as much in the other films and its driven by female warriors
Whether or not the version of John Connor, which was stated to have been seen (by the new leaker) at the end of Terminator: Dark Fate, is young John or a more mature adult John is up for debate – this information was not given to us.
Click here to read original John Connor death leaks
Reddit leaker ‘ViewerAnon’ contacted us via email to debunk the above Terminator: Dark Fate John Connor leak. Video below:
