Schwarzenegger is in full training mode to return to the role that made him a household name but interestingly Arnold could be training to return to his most popular role… the Villain T-800 killer cyborg.
Mirror reports:
He is being reunited with director James Cameron, who made him a star in the original Terminator in 1984. There have been four sequels.
Production designer Norm Newberry said the combination will save the franchise – and added that Arnold still has the talent to make fans believe he is a killer.
“After all, he made us believe he was a governor of California – so he could do anything,” he said.
Changing Arnold from bad machine to good machine has received a divided reception; you have your fans that prefer the villain T-800 and then you have the good T-800 fans who love Uncle Bob and Pops. We’ve made no secret that we find good Terminators pretty boring at this stage and the numbers speak for themselves.
Arnold Schwarzenegger has continually mentioned over the years that he is proud that his Terminator roles have made both AFI’s top 100 heroes and villains lists for the T-800 but we personally find the facts slightly embarrassing.
Terminator Judgment Day’s T-800 ranked number 48th in the list for hero popularity.
| 48 | Terminator (in TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY) |
The T-800 from The Terminator (1984) ranked 22nd in the villain list.
| 22 | Terminator (in THE TERMINATOR) |
So, why when Arnold’s villain is proven by the American Film Institute as being superior (over double the popularity stakes) and more preferred by the majority of fans,- do they keep doing protector comedy T-800’s? The damn truth of the matter is that Terminator 2 made a ton of money because the first movie was a sleeper hit and they wanted to see the sequel to it and it is not really acknowledged because the rhetoric is the watered down action tone of the sequel suits the box office model agenda and younger target audience more. This is money Vs art but will the new Terminator movie break that barrier and put art before money once again and will they take the risk to reap the rewards of going fully Rated R?
We don’t want to get our hopes up about ever seeing Arnold as a true Terminator villain again and we don’t even class good Terminator roles as Terminators… they don’t kill. To us they are protectors.
We always believed the return of Hamilton would be awesome and we have also believed the return of Arnold as a villain would be equally successful but it just depends if we are going full roots Terminator or T2 emulation Terminator movie. The movie, so far, is looking pretty damn good, Linda looks badass,- the summer release date shifted to November and this could be pointing towards something special but we remember Mackenzie Davis talking about Miller wanting to ground a lot of comedy in the movie and we really hope they heard fan concern and back-tracked for the sake of integrity.
What do you want to see Arnold good or Arnold bad… sound off in the comments below!
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Most need Arnold as good T800 headlines and half time in Terminator 6!
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Oh my God ! it will be just epic! a big surprise that the fans would have kept in a corner of the head but something that tells me that it will be really nice to see him in bad again because for me it’s been too long since he was kind to humans. Moreover if it is supposed to be the continuation of the 2 last judgment in the 3 last delayed judgment one can suppose that Skynet will send again the Cyan t800 in model to kill and another model to protect the humanity of the future! If he set up this in the film the success is assured because in Genisys the idea of having put his model in front of him from now had saved the film so why not that! 🙂 I believe we are waiting to see! I’LL BE BACK !! : D
NO “good” (stupid) Terminators and NO fucking stupid conedy! Only TRUE badass killer terminators and BADASS TERMINATOR KILLER SARAH CONNOR!!! Make it rated R for STRONG VIOLENCE AND LANGUAGE (specially for Linda’s character)!!! Period!!
I will be very interested in seeing how they pick this movie up from T2.Should be good with original cast.
No good terminator. R- rated. Only that kind of comedy like in Terminator 2 where dr. Silberman’s cigarette fell from the mouth after seeing T-1000 came through bars. That is good comedy!!!
That wasn’t a cigarette. That was the plastic guard of the hyperdermic needle.
The first movie 1984 was a horror movie. He was like a zombie robot no humor in the movie at all. That’s how this one needs to be, scary as hell.
Hmph. >:S I personally want to see Good T-800!
I agree with you that the Villain T-800 was a bit more iconic, and I also think that as awesome as ‘T2: Judgement Day’ is it has some story flaws compared to the original that people overlook. But I really love Uncle Bob and Pops, and frankly it either devastates me or pisses me off when writers make a loved hero or antihero go back to being a villain.
I think I could be satisfied if they had two T-101s, one hero and one villain.