Schwarzenegger has divulged information about Terminator 6 while promoting his new movie “Killing Gunther” and has revealed information about the T-800 Terminator he will play in the movie…
Schwarzenegger told Business Insider UK:
Tim [Miller] came up with a concept where they can continue on with the T-800, but make the movie a whole new movie. I think the character was stuck in the future and was more like an ordinary guy who suddenly gets activated again.
The learning computer is back again… the aging Terminator in Terminator 6,- according to Arnold, will be like an “Ordinary Guy”.
This concept does not excite us in the slightest and (to us) is totally unwanted. We and many other fans just want Arnold to go back to basics and represent the character the way he did in the first Terminator but here we go again with a new spin and a director wanting to put his own mark on things.
Unless the studios do a quick u-turn on the concept; we fear that Schwarzenegger might end up being the reason Terminator 6 could be a point of criticism by a wider audience once again. Saying he is “like an ordinary guy” is lining up a humanized T-800 AGAIN. What is Miller’s concept? The family dynamic of Grandpa (Schwarzenegger) and Grandma (Linda Hamilton)? Why has lugnuts been left to age in the future and learn from resistance fighters? A resistance fighting T-800 with a sense of humor and human behavior/traits/idiosyncrasies?
Torch passing; sounds like hero protector T-800 who acts like a human- nonsense.
The news of Terminator 6 has been good of late but there’s always some tidbits of news like this to make you feel a burgeoning sense of anxiety about the thing even entering production.
Fair enough hire the Deadpool director but if he approaches Terminator with Deadpool ethics/film-making style,- don’t expect us to welcome it. On first watching Deadpool it made all the right noises for the new wave of Rated R but on repeat watching it’s just a movie full of sex scenes that simply seem to exist in order to justify the R rating and an excess of CGI to glue it all together- experimental sex does not a relationship define and practical effects would have had more class and depth.
We hope Miller can pull his concept off and surprise us but at this point without more information this concept sounds like… a hot bag of excrement. Perhaps you might deem that a little strong but every time the fans have been promised a return to the roots, a “renaissance” if you will, it has been swiftly and succinctly followed but the sharp disappointment of another underwhelming return to the mediocrity which has sadly been the experience of the later incarnations of a once beloved franchise.
We live in hope, don’t we? That we are being heard, that our hopes and wishes have a louder voice than those of the investors and businessmen and bankers and big-wigs; the people who hold the purse strings of a franchise which once aroused the imaginations of audiences the world over and inspired future film-makers to aspire to make movies like T1 and T2. With every new false promise and empty commitment comes another fresh disappointment and quite frankly- fatigue.
Dear Mr. Miller,
This isn’t your movie. It belongs to the FANS. Please try to remember that.
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UPDATE: Business Insider UK made another post days later attributing half of the initial quote to Terminator Genisys- Read our follow up report by clicking here
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Efectivamente, ninguna de las entregas ha estado a la altura de las dos primeras ni menos de la primera en particular. Terminator es una película que siempre debió seguir la linea de la numero 1, es decir, debe ser un Terror suspenso, una película que al terminar de verla debe dejarte con temor a encontrarte con un ciborg exterminador, pero no hacer un chiste de un personaje que siempre debió ser aterrador. Basta ya de tonterías pongan al terminator en el lugar que se merece y por supuesto que debe ser encarnado por Arnold, así deban ocupar efectos para rejuvenecerlo o no pero, Terminator no sería lo que es si no es por Arnold, de no participar él, solo sería una mala copia de “The Terminator” como muchas otras.
I’ll reserve judgment until we learn more, but I’m not encouraged. The previous commenter is right in that a Terminator movie should be long on terror, suspense, and action, and short on humor, but I strongly disagree that Schwarzenegger is a necessarily element.
At its core, Terminator is about murderous machines pushing humanity to the brink of extinction, and the desperate, ragtag survivors struggling to survive in a post apocalyptic hell and valiantly rising up against Skynet. The time travel element creates a stark contrast between that world and contemporary world, mixing elements between the two and letting us ride along with the characters (human and cyborg) as they deal with the juxtaposition.
It is not about one actor, iconic though he may be. It is not about “there’s a new, even deadlier terminator in town!” That’s a trope that worked once – and worked extremely well – in T2, but every subsequent rehash only serves to dilute the impact of the nightmarishly terrifying T-800 by turning it into a punching bag for the new T-XYZ.
We don’t need Schwarzenegger, and finding a way to shoehorn him in even if it doesn’t serve the plot compromises the story and makes a weaker movie. We don’t need humor that breaks the mood (I’m looking at you, “Bad Boys” and frilly strip club sunglasses). We need to feel in awe of unstoppable killing machines. We need to feel terrified for their vulnerable human targets and sympathy as they deal with the horror and isolation of suddenly being ripped out of their normal life and thrust into a dark need reality where the world has an impending expiration date. And we need to feel inspired by the incredibly tough, resourceful survivors from the future who fight on even in a seemingly hopeless situation.
I hope Miller gets that.
I wouldn’t mind if the movie was a little more on drama/science fiction than action/horror, only if it was a good movie. The stupid mistakes of the previous films have been mostly emulate T1 and T2, and the “up the stakes” Hollywoodish desire on more action, more time travel, bla bla bla… Just make a good story FIRST (like James Cameron did with “The Terminator”) and then EXECUTE IT with good actors. Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited ’bout the comeback of Jim Cameron into the Terminator saga, but as long as he’s more worried about his little blue Smurfs movies (A.K.A. “Avatar” sequels) I don’t think it will be a good film.
The truth is they never tried to emulate the tone or the grit of the first movie- just a scene or a one liner. We feel the tone of the first movie needs to be brought back with the action spectacle (stunts) of the second and weave that into a strong story with good characters and we should be set for something cool but if you are going to have Linda Hamilton say come with me if you want to live and have Arnold protecting Sarah and an 18 year old girl (the T2/T3/Genisys trio dynamic) we are just repeating history in the wrong way again and emulating the wrong things.
It’s possible that this could be a good thing: for the first half of the film, we get a good T-800 who’s living an ordinary human life (a job, paying the bills, mowing the lawn, etc.), but at the halfway mark, everything he’s learned during his years as a human is wiped away and reset to his default programming, turning him into the remorseless killer seen in the first film. That way, both types of T-800 fans (those who want him good and who want him bad) get what they want.
No es eso lo que queremos, basta ya de lo mismo, en lo personal no me intetesa ver un terminator interactuando con humanos como si fuera uno mas, un terminator es un arma de matar, es temible, no te quieres encontrar con uno, esa es la cuestión. No mas persecuciones a john o a Sarha, quizás la formula saria hacer una historia en la guerra entre maquinas y humanos, algo asi como terminator Genesis pero sin volver al pasado ni nada de eso, una historia de terror y suspenso pero que como deben sobrevivir los humanos con las maquinas avechandolos.
arnolds description could easily be misinterpreted.. it could just mean that post t2, somehow this version of a terminator has nothing to do but wait (remember 1991-2018) is a long time between movies, and they aren’t trying to hide that either.. so maybe what he means is that in that time in between he’s doing nothing and when faced with a new mission he’s reactivated?
I hate the Arnold said that. An “ordinary guy”? Are you freaking kidding me? Here we go again trying to humanize the Terminator. Why? Because it’s the only way Arnold can fit into a new Terminator film. Nobody is afraid by a grandpa Terminator. Arnold doesn’t have the same firepower he had to lead a film lile he did in the 80s and 90s. Let’s be honest with ourselves.
“Oh Arnold IS the Terminator. Without him it isn’t the same.” BS! He did his part and was great in 1 and 2, but the Terminator story is about the machines, skynet, the Connors, the resistance… not model 101.
They can go in so many ways to tell a good story and introduce new characters and bring in new as well as older fans. Instead, the continue insisting on bringing back Arnold. I was sceptical in him playing a Terminator (I was hoping he’d play the human model 101 was based off) but whole “ordinary guy” Terminator just kills it for me. Another corny, comedy forced down your throat, Genisys style of movie. I don’t care what anyone says – Genisys was TERRIBLE!
Does it matter that Jimmy Cameron is back? I have no idea… I was excited about that but with Tim Miller directing, I’m not convinced he can pull it off; and the more Arnold talks about the movie the less I’m interested.
PLEASE, DO NOT F**** THIS UP!!!
Him being more human isnt such a huge problem considering he is a learning computer, and it is part of the lore, so if its not forced down are throats and more subtle then its fine.
Forced down are throats meaning he isnt posting instagram pics and working a regular job as security at a mall.
You can almost see some emotion in the end of T2, the way he wipes away Johns tears and says crying was something he could never do, almost like he was sad.
His voice was soft spoken not because he was becoming more human but he was learning how to deal with human beings emotions.
Even saying goodbye seemed out of place for a machine, but he was doing it because his proccessing unit was learning, becoming more human friendly.
That doesnt give you a license though to turn him into a fully blown human being that cracks jokes left and right and tries to live a normal life trying to make ends meet.
Making the Terminator deal with situations in a humanly matter seems more believable, because in the end all Terminators have missions, and he wouldnt be an efficent killer or protector if he came off as a psycho every time he talked.
Like for example if a cop pulls the T-800 over, he could act all friendly and ask what the problem was and get by with no trouble, his montone voice would probably lead the cop to be suspcious and he knows that. Kinda like how the T-1000 was acting to the foster parents, all friendly, which ultimately made him more terrifying. But once thats done its back to his normal robotic self.
The Terminator laughing and maybe cracking jokes to get someone comfortable does not seem corny to me, it could actually be scary, if done right. Like how the T-1000 tells the cop “say thats a nice bike” before evetually killing him and taking his bike.
Thats how you make him seem more human. He only becomes “human” when the need arises.
Aside from that my main concern is who they pick as the villian. A huge part of what made the original two movies so good was the sense of dread you felt every time the “bad” Terminator was on screen. Robert patrick nailed it as the T-1000, and I attribute a lot of T2’s success to him. Arnolds performance speaks for itself in the original as the villian.
My point being is your heroes are only as good as your villians are, if they do not find someone who can go back to basics and be a damn terrifying machine that doesnt feel pity or remorse or fear and not some bimbo who can make her tits look bigger to avoid a ticket, then chances are slim you will succed in making a good Terminator movie.
None of the movies after the sequel had good villians.
The originals atmosphere was just amazing, it was terrifying knowing the Terminator was damn near unstoppable and it was pretty much trying to insure the extinction of mankind. The stakes were high from the get go. It was none stop action from the begining, which made the sombre parts like the gas station scene and desert scene so warming, they really made you root for the heroes, almost happy that they were finally catching a break.
They need to capture that feeling from the originals.
Also about the humor. I disagree with people who say it should have no humor at all, sure it should be at a minimum but if you look at the original there was some genuinely hilarious moments in the movie.
The cop drinking out of the coffee after he was told a cigarette was put out in it, the same cop asking how he looked before facing the press and the whole “yo mama” line, the f@$k you asshole moment, and black dude who says “god damn” when arnold is walking down the hallway packing heat.
In the end im excited as ever and I hope they do the series justice, the Terminator series is my favourite franchise, I feel like a kid again with this announcment, it really is like a dream come true.
I never had hope with the last 3 movies, but with Arnold, James cameron and Linda hamilton involved, I have hope that the Terminator franchise will finally receive the justice it deserves.